Post by Glen on Sept 26, 2009 9:29:20 GMT 10
Been a whole heap of Skaven rumours popping up on various sites. This is the first set i have seen that looks reasonable.
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From under empire:
“There are four new boxes, plus some metal models and probably some repackaged old stuff.
Clanrats / Slaves
- plastic box of 20
- concept sketches by Jes Goodwin and Brian Nelson
- wear tattered robes and armour somewhat similar to LotR moria goblins
- the box may or may not contain parts to make weapon teams
Stormvermin
- presumably a plastic box of 10
Doomwheel
- plastic or metal box of 1
- smaller than the old version
Screaming Bell / unknown new war machine thingy
- plastic box, makes one or the other
- the bell variant comes with part of the church still attached
- it is unknown what the new war machine is, but given the structure of the screaming bell model, it would be logical to assume some sort of catapult. It is NOT a Cauldron of a Thousand Poxes
Deathmaster Snitch
- metal blister of 1
- jumping off a piece of scenery with a dagger in each hand (we will all be disappointed if he does not also have one in the tail)
“General info
Written by Jeremy Vetock, released November 2009. Major overhaul rulewise and modelwise. All the original fluff is there, the rules seem balanced and in no way over the top. Things that needed fixing were fixed, several new units have been added, interesting rules overall without any proliferation of special abilities for units.
One list flexible enough to make different flavours like Skryre, Eshin, Moulder, Pestilence and mixes thereof/other clans. A lot of new option, but not all accompanied by new models. New army wide rules, mainstay perhaps gone but maybe an additional +1CR for outnumbering (for a total of +2).
General model design close to original concepts and Warhammer Online concept art.
Skaven Magic is getting a big update, 13 spells in total and the highest casting cost of a single spell so far (even greater than Lord Kroak's spell). Might include a new big spell, perhaps the costy and complex summoning of a Vermin Lord or another transformation spell of a whole unit. All gray seers will know the skitterleap spell as standard. Grey Seer now knows all spells w unlimited Warpstones. Warplightning is S5 or S4 but it's only 1D6.
Units
Characters
More than 5, probably less than 13 but not much, with army altering rules. From the known clans, including Queek from clan Mors. No Vermin Lord as character (but summoned with a spell??). Deathmaster Snikch gets new model. Other new character models as well.
Doomwheel as possible mount. Doomwheel get new plastic (more rumours) or metal model, smaller than the old one, perhaps just one wheel. Rat Ogre mount for Skaven Warlord.
Screaming bell mount for Grey Seer, gets new fantastic plastic kit (can also be made into a Warpfire launcher).
Master Moulder grants regeneration to any Moulder unit he joins.
Plague Priest may now be upgraded to Lv 2 and any pestilence unit he joins can never loses frenzy.
Sniper champion can pick out models to shoot.
Assassins as unit upgrades. Cheaper and weaker than DE assassins but with nice magic gear.
Core
Clan rats
New plastic box. 20 rats for £20. Box also includes Slave models. Single rat maybe cheaper pointwise.
Slaves
Can be made from new clan rat box. Lose slings.
Storm Vermin
New plastic box with 20 rats (limited?) for £30 , also 10 box?. Models quite big. Same points. No 0-1 restriction with a warlord. May move to special. Hand weapon, Halberd, shield and heavy armour as standard. May be upgraded with ratling gun, warpfire thrower and/or assassin like in DE army book. Storm banner gone.
Gutter Runners
No new models. Cheapers by perhaps 2 points.
Weapon Teams
A total of 5 different weapon teams (maybe including new ‘lightning gun’ weapon team, as warp lightning but in the shooting phase). Can hide in clan rat, stormvermin and nightrunner units, are forced out if an enemy unit gets in 10" reach or the hiding unit flees (-2 save). Ratling gun is D6 shots, S4 or S5 and shots 2D6 when panicked. Move and shoot unit. Modelwise either repackaging in boxes or included in clan rat box.
Plague Monks
Core at least under special circumstances. Have frenzy, hatred and poisoned attacks
Censer Bearers
14 points and upgrade to monk units instead of independent rare unit. Makes Plague Monks special unit then (if I understood the text correctly).
Giant rats
mixed unit with Rat Ogres, one Ogre per 12 rats. Without packmaster roll d6 every round: 1-3 stupid, 4-6 frenzied.
Rat Ogres cheaper, other stats and with weapon/ability upgrades. (I am not certain from the text whether Rat Ogres can also be taken without rats).
Poison Wind Globadiers
Now have d6 hits per ‘hit’. No new models.
Special/Rare
Jezzails
0-1 unit, no skirmishers, but cheaper. No new models. S5AP not S6
Warp Lightning cannon
No new model. Follows normal war machine rules
Warpfire launcher
New plastic model included in Screaming bell kit.
giant, plague censer contraption
Big Clan Pestilence war machine, as seen on the cover
New big burrowing rat monster ("Hellpit abomination")
New metal model on chariot base. Can be configured cc or shooty. US5, regeneration, stubborn, causes terror, may tunnel and charge in any direction on turn it appears. Other units may follow tunnel, but may get eaten ”
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From under empire:
“There are four new boxes, plus some metal models and probably some repackaged old stuff.
Clanrats / Slaves
- plastic box of 20
- concept sketches by Jes Goodwin and Brian Nelson
- wear tattered robes and armour somewhat similar to LotR moria goblins
- the box may or may not contain parts to make weapon teams
Stormvermin
- presumably a plastic box of 10
Doomwheel
- plastic or metal box of 1
- smaller than the old version
Screaming Bell / unknown new war machine thingy
- plastic box, makes one or the other
- the bell variant comes with part of the church still attached
- it is unknown what the new war machine is, but given the structure of the screaming bell model, it would be logical to assume some sort of catapult. It is NOT a Cauldron of a Thousand Poxes
Deathmaster Snitch
- metal blister of 1
- jumping off a piece of scenery with a dagger in each hand (we will all be disappointed if he does not also have one in the tail)
“General info
Written by Jeremy Vetock, released November 2009. Major overhaul rulewise and modelwise. All the original fluff is there, the rules seem balanced and in no way over the top. Things that needed fixing were fixed, several new units have been added, interesting rules overall without any proliferation of special abilities for units.
One list flexible enough to make different flavours like Skryre, Eshin, Moulder, Pestilence and mixes thereof/other clans. A lot of new option, but not all accompanied by new models. New army wide rules, mainstay perhaps gone but maybe an additional +1CR for outnumbering (for a total of +2).
General model design close to original concepts and Warhammer Online concept art.
Skaven Magic is getting a big update, 13 spells in total and the highest casting cost of a single spell so far (even greater than Lord Kroak's spell). Might include a new big spell, perhaps the costy and complex summoning of a Vermin Lord or another transformation spell of a whole unit. All gray seers will know the skitterleap spell as standard. Grey Seer now knows all spells w unlimited Warpstones. Warplightning is S5 or S4 but it's only 1D6.
Units
Characters
More than 5, probably less than 13 but not much, with army altering rules. From the known clans, including Queek from clan Mors. No Vermin Lord as character (but summoned with a spell??). Deathmaster Snikch gets new model. Other new character models as well.
Doomwheel as possible mount. Doomwheel get new plastic (more rumours) or metal model, smaller than the old one, perhaps just one wheel. Rat Ogre mount for Skaven Warlord.
Screaming bell mount for Grey Seer, gets new fantastic plastic kit (can also be made into a Warpfire launcher).
Master Moulder grants regeneration to any Moulder unit he joins.
Plague Priest may now be upgraded to Lv 2 and any pestilence unit he joins can never loses frenzy.
Sniper champion can pick out models to shoot.
Assassins as unit upgrades. Cheaper and weaker than DE assassins but with nice magic gear.
Core
Clan rats
New plastic box. 20 rats for £20. Box also includes Slave models. Single rat maybe cheaper pointwise.
Slaves
Can be made from new clan rat box. Lose slings.
Storm Vermin
New plastic box with 20 rats (limited?) for £30 , also 10 box?. Models quite big. Same points. No 0-1 restriction with a warlord. May move to special. Hand weapon, Halberd, shield and heavy armour as standard. May be upgraded with ratling gun, warpfire thrower and/or assassin like in DE army book. Storm banner gone.
Gutter Runners
No new models. Cheapers by perhaps 2 points.
Weapon Teams
A total of 5 different weapon teams (maybe including new ‘lightning gun’ weapon team, as warp lightning but in the shooting phase). Can hide in clan rat, stormvermin and nightrunner units, are forced out if an enemy unit gets in 10" reach or the hiding unit flees (-2 save). Ratling gun is D6 shots, S4 or S5 and shots 2D6 when panicked. Move and shoot unit. Modelwise either repackaging in boxes or included in clan rat box.
Plague Monks
Core at least under special circumstances. Have frenzy, hatred and poisoned attacks
Censer Bearers
14 points and upgrade to monk units instead of independent rare unit. Makes Plague Monks special unit then (if I understood the text correctly).
Giant rats
mixed unit with Rat Ogres, one Ogre per 12 rats. Without packmaster roll d6 every round: 1-3 stupid, 4-6 frenzied.
Rat Ogres cheaper, other stats and with weapon/ability upgrades. (I am not certain from the text whether Rat Ogres can also be taken without rats).
Poison Wind Globadiers
Now have d6 hits per ‘hit’. No new models.
Special/Rare
Jezzails
0-1 unit, no skirmishers, but cheaper. No new models. S5AP not S6
Warp Lightning cannon
No new model. Follows normal war machine rules
Warpfire launcher
New plastic model included in Screaming bell kit.
giant, plague censer contraption
Big Clan Pestilence war machine, as seen on the cover
New big burrowing rat monster ("Hellpit abomination")
New metal model on chariot base. Can be configured cc or shooty. US5, regeneration, stubborn, causes terror, may tunnel and charge in any direction on turn it appears. Other units may follow tunnel, but may get eaten ”
